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Saturday May 17, 2025
JOJ Ep. 54 - Energy Drink Escapes, Social Media Purges, and the Dark Side of Fame
Saturday May 17, 2025
Saturday May 17, 2025
Episode Summary:
Jack and Ben fire up a sweaty Saturday morning session for JOJ Ep. 54, diving into a raw mix of health, culture, and conspiracy. The duo reflects on kicking energy drinks and diet sodas, exploring the yo-yo effect of caffeine and fake sugars. They tackle the decision to delete personal Instagram accounts to cut distractions and focus on what matters. The conversation takes a dark turn, addressing Justin Bieber’s troubling health and allegations tied to Diddy, the predatory underbelly of fame, and the chilling reality of child trafficking in the U.S. From NBA draft lottery rigging theories to small-town Oklahoma adventures and the isolating vibe of big cities, this episode is a rollercoaster of real talk, personal growth, and societal critique. Tune in for JOJ’s unfiltered take on navigating life’s temptations and truths!
Jack and Ben fire up a sweaty Saturday morning session for JOJ Ep. 54, diving into a raw mix of health, culture, and conspiracy. The duo reflects on kicking energy drinks and diet sodas, exploring the yo-yo effect of caffeine and fake sugars. They tackle the decision to delete personal Instagram accounts to cut distractions and focus on what matters. The conversation takes a dark turn, addressing Justin Bieber’s troubling health and allegations tied to Diddy, the predatory underbelly of fame, and the chilling reality of child trafficking in the U.S. From NBA draft lottery rigging theories to small-town Oklahoma adventures and the isolating vibe of big cities, this episode is a rollercoaster of real talk, personal growth, and societal critique. Tune in for JOJ’s unfiltered take on navigating life’s temptations and truths!
Timestamps & Topics Discussed:
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[00:00 - 00:51] Intro & Saturday Vibes: Jack and Ben kick off with nicotine gum, coffee, and humid morning energy, joking about needing an “edge” to start the day.
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[00:51 - 03:21] Energy Drink Struggles: The hosts debate energy drinks (Bucked Up vs. Black Rifle), their performance-driven appeal, and the pitfalls of chronic caffeine use.
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[03:21 - 05:33] Caffeine & Bio-Optimization: Discussion shifts to caffeine’s effect on adenosine receptors, Huberman’s clinical advice, and the impracticality of bio-optimization for most people.
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[05:33 - 08:30] Kicking Sodas & Fake Sugars: Ben shares his journey cutting diet sodas post-bodybuilding, the insulin response to fake sugars, and his six-day energy drink hiatus.
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[08:30 - 10:14] Childhood Soda Habits: The duo recalls childhood soda binges at Chili’s and how family health patterns inspired their soda-free years.
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[10:14 - 12:30] Addiction & Nighttime Cravings: They explore addictive behaviors (weed, vaping, porn), the dopamine chase, and the dangers of nighttime boredom.
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[12:30 - 15:05] Weed vs. Alcohol Trends: Speculation on weed replacing alcohol as a less social, more isolating vice, with thoughts on post-COVID usage shifts.
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[15:05 - 16:31] Social Media & Vices: The hosts touch on the accessibility of addictive behaviors in modern life and the freedom to indulge as Americans.
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[16:31 - 18:08] Name-Dropped in a Song: Jack celebrates being name-dropped in Omid Baby’s album Godspeed, praising the rapper’s unapologetic authenticity.
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[18:08 - 21:07] Small-Town Oklahoma Adventure: Jack recounts a wild trip to Walters, Oklahoma, with quirky gas station encounters and reflections on small-town life.
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[21:07 - 23:38] Small Towns vs. Big Cities: The hosts discuss the peace of small-town community vs. the isolation of cities, inspired by Flatland Cavalry’s Tall City Blues.
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[23:38 - 25:24] Country Music & Connection: They praise country music’s storytelling, mentioning Morgan Wallen’s new album and the longing for community.
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[25:24 - 29:17] Justin Bieber & Diddy Allegations: A dark pivot to Bieber’s health decline, Diddy’s alleged sex trafficking, and the symbolism in Bieber’s Yummy video.
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[29:17 - 32:24] Child Trafficking in the U.S.: The hosts cite Tim Tebow’s stats on 110,000 IP addresses linked to child exploitation, decrying the lack of government action.
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[32:24 - 35:19] Justice for Predators: They express outrage at leniency for pedophiles, referencing Cain Velasquez’s arrest for pursuing his son’s abuser.
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[35:19 - 38:25] Deleting Instagram: Ben explains deleting his personal Instagram to reduce distractions, simplify life, and focus on real connections.
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[38:25 - 40:01] Kids & Social Media: The hosts debate whether they’d allow their future kids on social media, citing risks from predators and toxic role models.
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[40:01 - 43:21] Bad Role Models & Materialism: They critique social media’s elevation of figures like Cardi B and the fleeting allure of material wealth.
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[43:21 - 46:40] Eminem’s Deal with the Devil: Analysis of Eminem’s My Darling, exploring themes of selling one’s soul for fame and the cost of success.
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[46:40 - 49:12] Predatory Fame & Child Stars: Discussion of compromised stars like Drake Bell, Nickelodeon’s dark side, and parents’ role in exposing kids to predators.
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[49:12 - 51:28] Kanye’s Rebellion: The hosts ponder Kanye’s provocative music as a stand against industry hypocrisy and toxic rap culture.
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[51:28 - 53:30] Rap’s Negative Influence: They critique rap’s glorification of violence and dysfunction, questioning if it’s part of a larger control scheme.
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[53:30 - 57:01] NBA Draft Lottery Rigging: Theories about the Mavericks’ 1.8% chance landing Cooper Flagg, with LeBron hinting at rigged lotteries.
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[57:01 - 59:33] NBA Playoffs & MVP Debate: Predictions for Denver vs. OKC Game 7, debates on Shai vs. Jokic for MVP, and Knicks vs. Pacers hopes.
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[59:33 - 01:00:03] Warriors’ Struggles & Wrap-Up: Quick take on the Warriors’ injury woes, Jimmy Butler’s non-superstar status, and a sweaty sign-off.
Resources Mentioned:
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Check out Omid Baby's album Godspeed for Jack's name-drop on "Certified Lover". https://open.spotify.com/album/734pREZE5EAs222vM4vmld?si=HCF36CvkS_atdzsn4MZaXQ
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Listen to Flatland Cavalry’s Tall City Blues for small-town vibes.
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Morgan Wallen’s new 37-song album.
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Eminem’s My Darling for a chilling take on fame.
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Tim Tebow’s interview on the Sean Ryan podcast for child trafficking stats.
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Follow Ben’s training content at Robinson Training Co. on Instagram.
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